Jason Dunnigan — The Modern Dad

Why Influence Without Trust Never Converts For Utah Brands

Jason Dunnigan of The Modern Dad in Salt Lake City, UT joins The Business Spotlight with Peter Anthony to discuss Why Influence Without Trust Never Converts For Utah Brands.

The Modern Dad Salt Lake City, UT 25 minMay 1, 2026
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On this episode of Utah Business Spotlight, host Peter Anthony sits down with Jason Dunnigan, the Utah-based creator behind The Modern Dad, a 60,000-follower Instagram platform, blog, and consulting practice Jason Dunnigan has spent 13 years building around active fatherhood, brand partnerships, and the structural truth that influence without trust never converts. Jason Dunnigan walks Peter Anthony through what actually drives results inside creator marketing, why most Utah brand outreach gets ignored, and the affiliate deal structure that protects both the creator and the brand.

Jason Dunnigan opens the conversation with the Utah operator truth most brands never internalize. The Modern Dad was not built on viral moments or fake engagement. The Modern Dad was built on trust first, audience second, and revenue third, in that order. Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony the structural reason most Utah brand outreach gets ignored is that brands skip the first two steps and lead with the offer. Jason Dunnigan describes the daily DM pattern, a brand follows The Modern Dad, then immediately messages with a product pitch, and names it as the structural mistake that disqualifies the brand on first contact.

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Jason Dunnigan walks Peter Anthony through The Modern Dad origin story. Jason Dunnigan grew up in a generation where dad went to work, came home, and his work was done, present in the house but absent from the events, the games, the recitals, and the daily fatherhood reps. When Jason Dunnigan decided to have kids 13 years ago, Jason Dunnigan made a structural decision to be a different kind of father, started blogging and posting on Instagram from a dad perspective when there were almost no dad creators in the space, and built The Modern Dad into a platform that now financially supports the Jason Dunnigan family.

Jason Dunnigan breaks down the structural Utah influencer marketing playbook with Peter Anthony. Step one is to follow the creator without immediately pitching. Step two is to comment authentically and consistently, not 'cute' or 'fun' but the kind of real comment a person would actually say in real life. Step three is to interact inside the comment threads of the creator's audience, because the creator is watching whether the brand is contributing to the community or stirring drama. Step four is the DM, and only after the brand has earned the right to be there. Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony the structural truth most Utah brand outreach never figures out, pending DMs go to a black hole, and the only way around it is to already be a recognized name in the creator's notifications.

Jason Dunnigan and Peter Anthony surface the deeper Utah creator economy principle. Product fit comes before the deal. A brand can do everything right, trust, authenticity, familiarity, and still get a no if the product does not match the creator's audience. Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony the brand version of going after a married woman, there is a small chance, but the brand would be better off finding a creator whose category is actually open. Peter Anthony names the 80/20 reality every Utah brand needs to internalize, 20% of what a creator represents drives 80% of the creator's revenue, and brands that do not study the creator's existing roster are quietly competing for a position that is already filled.

Jason Dunnigan walks Peter Anthony through the structural affiliate deal that actually performs for Utah brands and Utah creators. Start with the brand's total margin, for example 30% on a $100 product. Carve out 10% as a discount the creator can offer the audience, 10% as commission to the creator, and 10% as a buffer the brand can deploy on Black Friday, birthday months, or seasonal pushes to amplify the creator's commission or the audience's discount without breaking the math. Jason Dunnigan names the structural Utah creator marketing truth, the creator is trading the one resource the creator can never get back, which is time on the platform, and that time lives in perpetuity because the platform lives in perpetuity.

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Jason Dunnigan closes the episode with Peter Anthony on the structural Utah influencer reality most brands still get wrong. Followers do not prove influence. Follower counts can be purchased, engagement can be faked, and a creator who is constantly stacking unrelated brand deals is going to bury every individual brand inside the noise. Real Utah influence is built on trust, fit, and a relationship that survives the first deal. Jason Dunnigan now consults Utah brands on the same playbook through The Modern Dad, with a three-month engagement covering influencer strategy, affiliate marketing, and social media. Reach Jason Dunnigan at the-modern-dad.com or @the_modern_dad on Instagram. Utah Business Spotlight is produced by The INCubator AI Marketing Agency and filmed in Sandy, Utah.

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Episode Transcript

Starting 2026 with The Modern Dad

Why The Modern Dad brand exists

Turning active fatherhood into a platform

From side project to creator income

Hairdressers, trust, and early influence

Why brands pitch influencers wrong

The comment strategy most brands miss

Building trust before the offer

Product fit comes before the deal

Follow first, pitch later

What creators notice in the DMs

Why your product needs a sales path

How a strong affiliate deal works

Followers do not prove influence

About the Guest

Jason Dunnigan

The Modern Dad

Salt Lake City, UT

Jason Dunnigan is the Utah-based creator and consultant behind The Modern Dad, a 60,000-follower Instagram platform, blog, and brand-partnership practice Jason Dunnigan has spent 13 years building around active fatherhood and creator marketing. Jason Dunnigan started The Modern Dad when there were almost no dad creators in the space, blogging and posting from a father's perspective while working full time, and grew The Modern Dad through gifted product placements, then affiliate revenue, then full brand partnerships into a platform that now financially supports the Jason Dunnigan family. Jason Dunnigan has worked both sides of the creator economy, running influencer strategy, affiliate marketing, and social media for product brands, and partnering as a creator with brands across men's lifestyle, family, and outdoor categories. Jason Dunnigan now consults Utah businesses through The Modern Dad on a three-month engagement covering influencer strategy, affiliate structure, and the trust-first creator relationships that actually convert. Reach Jason Dunnigan at the-modern-dad.com or @the_modern_dad on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook.

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Who is Jason Dunnigan?

Jason Dunnigan is the Utah-based creator behind The Modern Dad, a 60,000-follower Instagram platform, blog, and brand-partnership practice Jason Dunnigan has spent 13 years building around active fatherhood and creator marketing. Jason Dunnigan also consults Utah brands on influencer strategy, affiliate marketing, and social media through The Modern Dad on a three-month engagement.

What is The Modern Dad?

The Modern Dad is the Utah creator brand founded by Jason Dunnigan 13 years ago to share the experience of an active, present, hands-on father, the dad who shows up to the games, the recitals, the events, and the daily reps of fatherhood. The Modern Dad operates as an Instagram platform, blog at the-modern-dad.com, and a creator marketing consulting practice for Utah brands.

How should a Utah brand approach an influencer?

Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony the structural Utah influencer outreach playbook is four steps. First, follow the creator without pitching. Second, comment authentically and consistently, the way a real person would talk in real life. Third, interact inside the comment threads of the creator's audience to show the brand is contributing to the community. Fourth, only after that, send a DM that respects the relationship. Brands that skip the first three steps and lead with a product pitch get ignored.

What does a strong affiliate deal look like?

Jason Dunnigan structures Utah affiliate deals around the brand's total margin. On a $100 product with 30% to work with, Jason Dunnigan recommends 10% as the audience discount, 10% as the creator commission, and 10% as a buffer the brand can deploy during Black Friday, birthday months, or seasonal pushes to amplify either the discount or the creator commission without breaking the math.

Why do follower counts not prove influence?

Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony follower counts can be purchased, engagement can be faked, and creators who constantly stack unrelated brand deals will bury every individual brand inside the noise. Real Utah influence is measured by trust, by audience-product fit, and by the creator-brand relationship that survives the first deal, not by the number on the profile.

How do I work with Jason Dunnigan?

Jason Dunnigan offers a three-month consulting engagement through The Modern Dad covering influencer strategy, affiliate marketing structure, and social media. Utah brands can reach Jason Dunnigan at the-modern-dad.com or by DM on Instagram at @the_modern_dad.

Where is Utah Business Spotlight filmed?

Utah Business Spotlight is filmed in Draper, UT 84020. The show is produced by The INCubator AI Marketing Agency and hosted by Peter Anthony.

Episode Transcript

00:00 Starting 2026 with The Modern Dad

Peter Anthony opens the episode of Utah Business Spotlight from inside our studio in Sandy, Utah and welcomes Jason Dunnigan, the Utah-based creator behind The Modern Dad. Peter Anthony names Jason Dunnigan as a major Utah influencer with a strong Instagram following and previews the three structural threads of the conversation, passion, opportunity, and how a Utah creator turns both into a real business that supports a family.

02:16 Why The Modern Dad brand exists

Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony why The Modern Dad exists. Jason Dunnigan grew up in a generation where dad went to work, came home, and his work was done, present in the house but absent from the events, the games, and the daily fatherhood reps. Jason Dunnigan made a structural decision to be a different kind of father and built The Modern Dad as the platform to document and share that version of fatherhood.

04:01 Turning active fatherhood into a platform

Peter Anthony walks Jason Dunnigan through the structural Modern Dad scoreboard. Jason Dunnigan now operates a 60,000-follower Instagram platform, a blog, and a consulting practice, all built on the original thesis that an active, present, hands-on father is a story Utah and the rest of the world had almost no creators telling 13 years ago.

05:01 From side project to creator income

Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony the Modern Dad business model evolution. The Modern Dad started as a side blog and Instagram while Jason Dunnigan worked full time, grew through gifted product placements, then evolved into affiliate revenue where Jason Dunnigan earned commission on products the audience purchased through The Modern Dad, and eventually scaled into full brand partnerships that now financially support the Jason Dunnigan family.

06:05 Hairdressers, trust, and early influence

Peter Anthony names the structural truth that connects Peter Anthony's salon background to the Jason Dunnigan creator playbook. Hair salons were the first social media platform, what the hairdresser recommended, the client bought. Peter Anthony names hairdressers as the original Utah influencers, and tells Jason Dunnigan The Modern Dad is the digital evolution of the same trust-first model.

06:51 Why brands pitch influencers wrong

Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony the daily Utah influencer DM pattern that disqualifies most brand outreach on first contact. A brand follows The Modern Dad and immediately messages with a product pitch, sometimes with a fake 'I've been following you forever' opener Jason Dunnigan can verify is false because Jason Dunnigan can see the follow date. Jason Dunnigan names the structural Utah brand mistake, leading with the offer instead of the relationship.

07:34 The comment strategy most brands miss

Jason Dunnigan walks Peter Anthony through the comment-layer strategy most Utah brands skip. The comment is the first real signal a brand sends. 'Cute' and 'fun' do not work, they are the kind of comments no real person makes in real life. Jason Dunnigan looks for brands that comment the way a friend would talk in person. That is the comment that gets noticed and starts to build trust.

09:37 Building trust before the offer

Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony the structural creator economy truth most Utah brands never internalize. Trust takes time. Following, commenting, interacting, and DMing is not a four-day flow, it is a multi-week relationship. Jason Dunnigan names the moment trust is real, when Jason Dunnigan recognizes the brand, looks the brand up, and starts to consider whether the product even fits The Modern Dad audience.

10:12 Product fit comes before the deal

Jason Dunnigan and Peter Anthony surface the deeper Utah creator marketing principle. A brand can do everything right and still get a no if the product does not fit the creator's audience. Jason Dunnigan uses the rocket ship example, even with full trust, full familiarity, and full authenticity, a rocket ship has no place inside a fatherhood platform. Peter Anthony names the same Utah truth, most brand outreach fails because the brand never studied the fit before sending the pitch.

12:17 Follow first, pitch later

Peter Anthony breaks down the Jason Dunnigan playbook into a clean Utah brand checklist. Step one is to follow. Step two is to engage authentically, both directly on the creator's posts and inside the creator's audience comment threads. Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony that interacting with the audience tells the creator more about the brand than any prepared pitch ever will.

13:00 What creators notice in the DMs

Jason Dunnigan tells Peter Anthony what The Modern Dad actually looks for inside the DMs. The DM is where no one else can see the conversation, which is exactly where most Utah brands reveal that the relationship was never real. Jason Dunnigan also warns that pending DM folders are a black hole, which is why the public-facing follow, comment, and interact steps are the only way to earn a DM that actually gets read.

14:03 Why your product needs a sales path

Peter Anthony names the structural Utah brand truth Jason Dunnigan agrees with on the spot. If a Utah brand has not figured out what makes the product special, the brand cannot outsource that to a creator. The Modern Dad will not invent the brand's positioning. Sponsored posts that exist only because the brand paid the creator will look like exactly what they are inside the content, and the audience reads that signal instantly.

16:42 How a strong affiliate deal works

Jason Dunnigan walks Peter Anthony through the structural Utah affiliate deal math. On a $100 product with 30% to work with, Jason Dunnigan splits it into 10% audience discount, 10% creator commission, and 10% buffer the brand can deploy on Black Friday, birthday months, or seasonal pushes to amplify either side without breaking the model. Jason Dunnigan names this structure as the reason both the creator and the brand stay aligned over a long-term partnership instead of burning out after one campaign.

19:04 Followers do not prove influence

Jason Dunnigan closes the conversation with Peter Anthony on the structural Utah creator economy truth most brands still ignore. Follower counts can be purchased. Engagement can be faked. A creator constantly stacking unrelated brand deals is going to bury every individual brand inside the noise. Real Utah influence is measured by trust, audience-product fit, and the relationship that survives the first deal. Reach Jason Dunnigan at the-modern-dad.com or @the_modern_dad on Instagram. Utah Business Spotlight is produced by The INCubator AI Marketing Agency and filmed in Sandy, Utah.